Brace for Impact: Team TOTUS comes out for extension of homebuyer tax credit

Update: Marty Feldstein agrees with MiM on the GDP and double dip  (too bad he endorsed Obama and later let himself be used as a tool like Volcker)

Third-quarter growth “was boosted by the various fiscal stimulus policies,” Harvard University professor Martin Feldstein said in an e-mail. “The danger remains of a serious slowdown after this and a possible double dip” of the economy in 2010, he said.

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In an apparent  reversal of  sentiment from that expressed by HUD chief Shaun Donovan in his testimony to Congress just weeks ago when he said it was very expensive, the WH is endorsing the extension of the homebuyer tax credit (details at end of post).

IMO this policy reversal, combined with TOTUS’ failure to laud the GDP data today (he merely commented that he is not satisfied as Americans need work) can mean only one thing.

The internal economic projections of the WH team led by Romer rolling stimulus expectations waaaay back last week, are WAY WAY WORSE than expected. They see the double dip coming and are trying to get in front of it with more stimulus spending in an extended homebuyer tax credit which will do what clunkers did,  cannibalize future sales and leave a wider gap in the future with additional deficits.

So MiM’s forecast for artificial GDP bumps in 3Q and 4Q  ’09 may need to be extended into 1Q 2Q 2010 if they are going to keep throwing money at anything that will give a temporary boost to GDP. Of course the coming tax hikes they are building into the system with the deficit they are growing will CRUSH our economy for years to come but that seems to be beyond their timeline, and thus not their concern.

Clearly the goal is political with everything they do, I guess that comes from Rahm. But that being said, I would expect they are playing dice hoping to keep GDP artificially high going into 2010 Congressional mid terms.

Of course since it is not organic GDP growth jobs are not coming with it so I don’t see the payoff in this policy unless they think Americans will look at stock markets and GDP and feel happy despite being unemployed and foreclosed upon? DOW right now, 3:14 pm up 200. It is high on sugar and our economy is a diabetic on dialysis over here! Today is the anniversary of the 29 collapse btw…there was a HUGE rally after that followed by the utter collapse of the economy as a CNBC guest notes now…HA he said sugar high! I said that! I will add this video when CNBC posts it :)

Question is, can they pull off this GDP stimulus spending for that long while simultaneously driving down the dollar without a total collapse of our economy from the CRUSHING deficit? We shouldn’t have to even pose that question. This is like giving the car keys to a raging alcoholic after an open bar at their ex’s wedding.

Doubling down on bad medicine.  I am past girding, I am bracing for impact (sadly no Sully at the wheel, we have Pelosi and Reid)..

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Original Post: In an apparent  reversal of  sentiment from that expressed by HUD chief Shaun Donovan in his testimony to Congress just weeks ago when he said it was very expensive, the WH is endorsing the extension of the homebuyer tax credit:

The nation’s top housing official expressed doubt over the need to extend the $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, and said that the Obama administration was reviewing whether the additional cost of extending the credit was worth any benefit in home sales.

Shaun Donovan, the secretary of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, told a Senate hearing on Tuesday that there was “clear evidence” that the tax credit had benefited the housing market. But he said that the “real issue” in considering an extension was whether an extension was worth the cost to the government in lost tax revenue.

The actual cost of the credit won’t be known “until Americans have filed their tax returns,” he said. “And so, we feel it’s very important within the administration that we gather as much data as we possible can in advance of that before we make a final decision.”

This was just 2 weeks ago folks!

Mr. Donovan said that he understood that the impending expiration of the tax credit meant that the administration needed to make a decision soon so that the market could plan accordingly. Mr. Donovan said he didn’t believe a “catastrophic decline” in home sales would result if the tax credit were allowed to expire on Nov. 30, though he said that an expiration could have some “negative implications” for the market….

And today they send out Geithner to say EXTEND THE TAX CREDIT!

Bloomberg:

The Obama administration endorsed plans to extend an $8,000 tax credit for first-time homebuyers, saying it is helping stabilize the nation’s housing market.

The tax break, enacted earlier this year as part of an economic stimulus package, has “brought new families into the housing market and contributed to three consecutive months of rising home prices,” Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said today in a statement. The tax break will expire Nov. 30 unless Congress intervenes.

Senate Democrats have announced plans to extend the credit until April 30 while expanding it to include higher-income Americans and some who already own homes.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus said today the new plan would offer a $6,500 credit for homebuyers who have lived in their prior residence for at least five years. Couples earning up to $225,000 and individuals up to $125,000 would qualify for the break, Baucus said. That’s up from the current $75,000 limit for individuals and $150,000 for couples.

“The success of the American economy is closely tied to the success of the housing market – by helping to stabilize the housing market, the homebuyer tax credit has helped to shore up the economy as it begins to recover,” said Baucus. “This would enable an even greater number of potential homebuyers to take the credit.” Millions of renters earn more than $75,000, he said.

Here’s a question for good ole Max who initially balked at this spending: What will happen to all those rental property owners whose tenants you claim will buy houses? What about the people who work for those property owners? Unintended consequences. All the government can do is steal one man’s profit and give it to someone else. They do not CREATE anything. Only private capital CREATES JOBS. My God I sound like Larry Kudlow. My dad is smiling in heaven.

Democrats have been pushing to include the provisions in an unemployment benefits bill, which has been held up by a disagreement with Republicans over other proposed amendments….( read the whole thing).

October 29, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Economy, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Obama Administration, Politics, Popular Culture, TARP, Taxes, Unemployment Statistics, Wall St. 4 comments.

Update 5: Bill signed. Procedural vote now scheduled for Nov 2; Looks like no UE vote until next week; COBRA subsidy Extension? Unemployment Extension Update: Reid still wrangling on amendments..

Update: Bill finally signed! see here

Update 4: 11/2 New thread up to follow the UE vote here

Update 3: Reid has put off the vote as expected to next week. Vote to close debate now scheduled for Nov 2nd (CQ Politics):

The extension and expansion of a tax credit for first-time homebuyers has been incorporated into Senate legislation that would extend unemployment benefits.

The Senate will hold a procedural vote on the legislation on Nov. 2. A vote on final passage of the entire package probably will happen by the end of next week.

The underlying bill on unemployment benefits had been held up by disagreements among Senate leaders about how to handle amendments.

…Reid offered a time agreement that would have allowed for consideration of two Republican amendments aimed at funding the unemployment benefit extension using TARP funds and increasing oversight of the bailout. But no amendments will be taken up next week, a spokesman for Reid said Friday….

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October 29, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , . Economy, Labor Department, Obama Administration, Politics, Unemployment Statistics. 18 comments.

True Blood Season 3 spoilers and scoop! Show casting new vamps and Sam’s brother…

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AceShowBiz:

…During the (Paley Ctr) panel held in Los Angeles on Wednesday, October 28, creator Alan Ball and other writers such as Raelle Tucker and Alexander Woo came out with a lot of spoilers for the new season.

First thing first, Ball answered the question about season 2′s cliffhanger where Bill was abducted by an unknown person. Ball spilled that fans need not wait long because it will be revealed immediately in the first episode. Another juicy spoiler would be shirtless Eric. “ appears without most of his clothes in the very first episode of season 3,” Ball revealed.

OH AWESOME!! Readers of the books know what that likely means!! Sookie finding Eric wandering on a road naked with amnesia perhaps?! YOWSA! And Debbie Pelt is coming, oh that evil Debbie!

More  plus spoilers, after the break:

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October 29, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , . Celebrities, Entertainment, Fantasy, Fiction, Horror, Mystery, Popular Culture, Sci Fi, Supernatural, Suspense, True Blood, Urban Fantasy. 3 comments.

Horror: “The Fourth Kind” Sneak Peeks

This looks as though it will hit me the way I expected Paranormal Activity to, awesome!..of course I did miss a few mins of PA to hurl (motion sickness?nachos? ‘disturbed’ by the film?) :)

Courtesy of HollywoodStreams

1n 1972, a scale of measurement was established for alien encounters. When a UFO is sighted, it is called an encounter of the first kind. When evidence is collected, it is known as an encounter of the second kind. When contact is made with extraterrestrials, it is the third kind. The next level, abduction, is the fourth kind. This encounter has been the most difficult to document-until now. Set in modern-day Nome, Alaska, where–mysteriously since the 1960s–a disproportionate number of the population has been reported missing every year. Despite multiple FBI investigations of the region, the truth has never been discovered. Here in this remote region, psychologist Dr. Abigail Tyler began videotaping sessions with traumatized patients and unwittingly discovered some of the most disturbing evidence of alien abduction ever documented.

More clips after the break:

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October 28, 2009. Tags: , , , . Entertainment, Fantasy, Film, Horror, Mystery, Popular Culture, Sci Fi, Supernatural, Suspense. Leave a comment.

Phillies win 6-1; World Series Game 1 @NYY: first pitch 7:57pm EST

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Update:Marc Faber, Dr Doom, agrees with MiM; Christina Romer on stimulus bump in GDP; 3Q GDP in up 3.5%;Market Mover Thursday: 3Q GDP 8:30am EST..

UPDATE: Well! The original Dr Doom Marc Faber himself agrees with MiM’s analysis of the GDP and even uses the drunk analogy we used! Go read the whole thing!:

(…)Faber pointed out that there is currently a tug-of-war between the government and corporations and consumers. The government is pushing corporations and consumers to increase leverage, while they try to reduce borrowing in the wake of the financial crisis, he said.”If you have a drunk and he is drunk, you try to solve his problem by giving him more … this is role of the government. In my opinion this worked very badly,” he said…

…Bernanke only ever targets core inflation, Faber pointed out. But that strategy misses the point and it was the main cause of the current crisis, he said.

“How many people in this room can live without food and energy?” he asked a packed conference hall at the World Money Show. “Maybe at the Federal Reserve,” he added….

Reminder of the stimulus impact on this number and its return to zero in 2010 courtesy of Calculated Risk by way of Team TOTUS itself:

From Christina Romer, Chair, Council of Economic Advisers in Testimony before the Joint Economic Committee: From Recession to Recovery

In a report issued on September 10, the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) provided estimates of the impact of the ARRA on GDP and employment. …

These estimates suggest that the ARRA added two to three percentage points to real GDP growth in the second quarter and three to four percentage points to growth in the third quarter. This implies that much of the moderation of the decline in GDP growth in the second quarter and the anticipated rise in the third quarter is directly attributable to the ARRA.

Fiscal stimulus has its greatest impact on growth around the quarters when it is increasing most strongly. When spending and tax cuts reach their maximum and level off, the contribution to growth returns to roughly zero. This does not mean that stimulus is no longer having an effect. Rather, it means that the effect is to keep GDP above the level it would be at in the absence of stimulus, not to raise growth further. Most analysts predict that the fiscal stimulus will have its greatest impact on growth in the second and third quarters of 2009. By mid-2010, fiscal stimulus will likely be contributing little to growth.
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The impact on GDP will be smaller going forward, and according to Dr. Romer, the impact will be around zero by mid next year, and will be a drag later in 2010 (as stimulus is reduced).

Update: El Rushbo on shenanigans with the stimulus job numbers:

Courtesy of therightscoop

Update: Diane Swonk on CNBC notes 1.7% of this GDP came from Clunkers. Rick Santelli agrees with MiM, it is a number driven by inventory builds and clunkers, it is less than 2% in reality and it is unsustainable without govt spending…GDP is important in part because it traditionally means you know JOBS. this is NOT a job creating GDP recovery number, this is a head fake, 4Q will have the homebuyer tax credit bump too, 1Q 10 2Q 10 are the real ones to watch and ONLY if the govt STOPS the Keynesian spending which IS NOT WORKING, THERE ARE STILL NO JOBS!

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Ride Zombie Bull Market Ride!

Update: Data in: 3Q GDP up 3.5% (clunkers, home credits, inventory builds,) MiM is still predicting a double dip, we are right on schedule…UE claims higher than expected…I predict a slew of speeches from Team TOTUS patting themselves on the back for what is IMO a fake number driven by government intervention with ridiculous spending programs like clunkers and homebuyer credits. When they are producing  jobs and actual sustained durable good orders and retail sales THEN I will call it a recovery.

But we will be forced to listen to TOTUS patting himself on the back for a while first, ugh. And when it collapses AGAIN (I predict the double dip in  1Q or 2Q 2010 depending when the WH runs out of spending programs as the bond vigilantes force rates higher and the Fed either wakes up and tightens or lets hyperinflation kill the consumer) will TOTUS then re-blame GWB?

-FOX is reporting taxpayers spent 24,000 per frakkin clunker, unreal (Edmunds.com). FOX notes the Govt waits one hour after GDP release to talk about it so enjoy your TV while you can, lol.

CNBC:

The U.S. economy grew in the third quarter for the first time in a year as consumer spending and investment in new home-building rebounded, data showed on Thursday, unofficially ending the worst recession in 70 years..

..Initial claims for state unemployment insurance declined, though the number was higher than expected, to a seasonally adjusted 530,000 in the week ended Oct. 24, the Labor Department said. Analysts polled by Reuters had forecast claims to fall to 521,000 last week from 531,000.

The Commerce Department, in its first estimate of third-quarter gross domestic product, said the economy grew at a 3.5 percent annual rate, the fastest pace since the third quarter of 2007, after contracting 0.7 percent in the April-June period.

The growth pace in GDP, which measures total goods and services output within U.S. borders, was above market expectations for a 3.3 percent rate. The economy last grew in the second quarter of 2008…

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October 28, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , . Economy, Finance, Housing, Obama Administration, Politics, Wall St. Leave a comment.

Americans support more troops in Afghanistan 47/43

Update: 6:57 pm EST Special Report just noted an AP report indicating two military (?) sources saying TOTUS has made a decision and is planning to send 20k troops. All panelists agreed it was a political decision and will be seen as such and Stephen Hayes noted it endangers the entire war effort.

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October 28, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , . Armed Forces, Politics, Terrorism. Leave a comment.

MARVELFEST 2009: TONIGHT NYC 600pm EST LIVE X-Men Motion Comic Premiere; Astonishing X-Men Motion Comic Music Video – ‘Rise Up’:

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DEADPOOL doing voice audition for X-Men Motion Comics below, lol!!:

MARVELFEST 2009 info at Marvel.com/fest09:

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October 28, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , . Art, Celebrities, Entertainment, Fantasy, Fiction, Film, graphic art, Horror, Mystery, Popular Culture, Saturday Morning Cartoons, Sci Fi, Supernatural, Suspense, Urban Fantasy. Leave a comment.

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