Update: TOTUS lied, tort reform died! Trial Lawyers, prepare to meet the undercarriage of the bus…
I think the real winners tonight were the peeps who watched Ghost Hunters. I am going to the DVR stat to depoliticize myself for a few hours, lol!
Update 3: the Excellent IMO response from the GOP by Dr Rep Charles Bustany R LA. Go to healthcare.GOP.gov:
Update 2: Courtesy of Gateway Pundit, the clip of TOTUS getting called on his lie as he calls out the people for what he calls lies about immigrants being covered, what a farce this whole plan is at this point…
Update: Aww what a wash out!!! that was NOT TORT REFORM!! That was an agreement to view various options yada yad yada, that and a token will get us on the subway, it wont reduce the cost curve…he is for mandates now but no subsidies for the middle class, so the pain without the gain I guess is his message, of the greater good and Teddy or something like that…and frankly I consider the vow not to cut Medicare to be a lie, he has 622 billion in medicare cuts under OMB numbers, he will GUT Medicare Advantage…
Trial Lawyers Prepare to go Unda Da Bus!! Tort Reform Cometh baby...
Hmm 2:30 pm AZ Time, I predict TOTUS will toss a bone of med mal tort reform to the GOP tonight!
It is mentioned in Politico I think it was, someone said something about it, and George Snuggleupagus just mentioned it on Hannity on the radio…
Heh.
Cause sooner or later, we ALL go unda da bus--Forget it Jake, it’s TOTUS TOWN
remember: EVERYBODY MUST GET TAXED!
THEY’LL TAX YOU TIL YOU HAVE A BROKEN BACK
THEY’LL TAX YOU TIL YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK
THEY’LL TAX YOU AND THEY’LL SAY THAT IT IS FAIR
THEY’LL TAX YOU AND THEY SAY IT’S JUST THEIR SHARE
OH I WISH WE COULD ALL JUST RELAX!!
BUT EVERYBODY MUST GET TAXED!!!
Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 – Bob Dylan Rainy Day Government #12 & 35 by MiM
Well, they’ll stone TAX ya when you’re trying to be so good,
They’ll stone TAX ya just a-like they said they would.
They’ll stone TAX ya when you’re tryin’ to go home.
Then they’ll stone TAX ya when you’re there all alone.
But I would not feel so all alone,ATTACKED
Everybody must get stoned. TAXED
Moderate in the Middle 
Update: Totus Lied, Tort Reform Died! Trial Lawyers, Prepare To replied:
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September 21, 2009 at 6:55 am. Permalink.
ginaswo replied:
lol:
Tort reform is a policy no-brainer. Experts on left and right agree that defensive medicine—ordering tests and procedures solely to protect against Joe Lawyer—adds enormously to health costs. The estimated dollar benefits of reform range from a conservative $65 billion a year to perhaps $200 billion. In context, Mr. Obama’s plan would cost about $100 billion annually. That the president won’t embrace even modest change that would do so much, so quickly, to lower costs, has left Americans suspicious of his real ambitions.
It’s also a political no-brainer. Americans are on board. Polls routinely show that between 70% and 80% of Americans believe the country suffers from excess litigation. The entire health community is on board. Republicans and swing-state Democrats are on board. State and local governments, which have struggled to clean up their own civil-justice systems, are on board. In a debate defined by flash points, this is a rare area of agreement.
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The only folks not on board are a handful of powerful trial lawyers, and a handful of politicians who receive a generous cut of those lawyers’ contingency fees. The legal industry was the top contributor to the Democratic Party in the 2008 cycle, stumping up $47 million. The bill is now due, and Democrats are dutifully making a health-care down payment.
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September 10, 2009 at 6:26 pm. Permalink.
ginaswo replied:
see this WSJ editorial piece for the stats on what med mal cases are costing the system as a whole
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574404984255332524.html#mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_opinion
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September 10, 2009 at 6:26 pm. Permalink.
New York City Lawyer replied:
No one talks about how much the war costs….but can a health car option? im sure you who think this is a bad idea have always had access to health care
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September 10, 2009 at 11:20 am. Permalink.
ginaswo replied:
HA!! Shows how in touch you are, the middle class oppose it, I am in fact not covered right now b/c I cannot afford the COBRA even with the Stimulus subsidy, but I dont expect my neighbors or more importantly I dont expect the entire country to take a massive hit to GDP and capital investments in the free markets b/c little ole me needs more or wants more. If I cannot get employed within the window to assure no preex hits me later, then and only then will I sign up for medicaid just to ENSURE, get it lol, ensure that I dont get limited later
that option is available to EVERY American right now
NO ONE is denied ER treatment at a public hiospital (unless you were unlucky enough to be a poor person of color in Chicagoa nd the ambulance took you to UofC Med Ctr where MEchelle Obama would PATIENT DUMP your axx someplace else, ften leading to higher costs as more damage came from delay in treatment)
this will kill jobs at a time we desparately need capital investment
but keep telling yourself its a class warfare thing or that people are inhuman and have no empathy if it makes you feel more righteous, lol
excuse typos I am in fact disabled visually and yet am amazingly not on any govt plan for it, lol
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September 10, 2009 at 12:37 pm. Permalink.
Richard Clark replied:
Freewheelin Bob Dylan Retains Same Illuminati Law Firm as George W. Bush in Fifteen Year Plagiarism Law Suit. Also suppresses Plaintiff’s First Amendment Rights acquiring a protective order designating all video taped depositions that are incriminating to Dylan confidential
Bob Dylan & his law firm acquired a confidentiality order in a fifteen year plagiarism law suit designating all discovery materials including fifty hours of incriminating video taped depositions as confidential suppressing Plaintiff James Damiano’s first amendment rights to warn the public of Judicial favoritism and corruption.
Camden NJ June 2, 2009 -Few artists can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Twenty-two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.
As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS used songs and
lyrics for international recording artist, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan’s name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.
Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan, James has engaged in a multimillion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan.
As per court proceedings, “It is judicially uncontested by Bob Dylan and or Bob Dylan’s law firms Manatt, Phelps & Phillips , Parcher Hayes & Snyder, Gibson Dunn & Crutcher, Heck Brown and Sherry and Sony House Counsel that Bob Dylan and people in Bob Dylan’s entourage have solicited James Damiano’s songs and music for over ten years and eleven months.”
Interestingly enough, District Judge Jerome B. Simandle states in his decision “This court will accept as true Plaintiff’s allegations that Sony represented to him that he would be credited and compensated for his work if Dylan used it. Judge Simandle also stated in his decision “Plaintiff has demonstrated a genuine issue of material fact as to whether defendants had access to his work”.
http://jamesdamiano.yolasite.com/
Read more The Bob Dylan James Damiano Story
Richard Clark
uslawjournal@gmail.com
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September 9, 2009 at 10:02 pm. Permalink.
Mark Baird replied:
Following is a GAO report on medical malpractice and could not find any evidence to substantiate the claims of lawsuits impacting health care costs, access to health care or defensive medicine (with one possible lose connection relating to OBGYN). But of course you will not see this report on any media outlet swinging left or right.
Click to access d03836.pdf
Remember the CBO report regarding the cost of a single payer system that we all grasped to support our arguments against a single payer system…
Well, there is the CBO report which had this to say about tort reform:
“But even large savings in premiums can have only a small direct impact on health care spending–private or governmental–because malpractice costs account for less than 2 percent of that spending.”
http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4968&type=0#t3
And of course there is Tillinghast-Towers Perrin (one of the largest in the world that provides risk management for the insurance and reinsurance industry).
According to the actuarial consulting firm Towers Perrin, medical malpractice tort costs were $30.4 billion in 2007, the last year for which data are available. We have a more than a $2 trillion health care system. That puts litigation costs and malpractice insurance at 1 to 1.5 percent of total medical costs. That’s a rounding error. Liability isn’t even the tail on the cost dog. It’s the hair on the end of the tail.
Of that 1 to 1.5 percent what portion of that is “frivolous”?
http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf (Page 10)
And then of course the report from Towers Perrin that states that the total tort cost in the US is 2% of the GDP. What percentage of that is “frivolous” and of that percentage what percentage is “frivolous” corporate lawsuits. So how much are “frivolous” lawsuits driving up the cost of everything? Maybe less than 2 cents on the dollar or maybe even less the 1 cent on the dollar?
Click to access getwebcachedoc
It is unfortunate that everyone is so willing to give up their right to sue with such a small cost to society, if in fact these facts are true. If that is the case then maybe we should do something with smokers or overweight people such as myself. After all they present a tremendous cost to society. Or maybe we should ration end of life care as this has a significant cost to society.
Maybe doctors are practicing defensive medicine for other reasons like getting paid for procedures. Maybe insurance rates are going up for other reasons and lawsuits and trial lawyers are an easy target because we know how our own exaggerations can drive our anger and hate.
I do not know but the numbers are just not holding up the case for tort reform.
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September 9, 2009 at 8:14 pm. Permalink.
ginaswo replied:
I have only my persoanl experience as a paralegal in a med mal/wrongful death/PI firm and that of any TV viewer who sees the ENDLESS stream of Medical Supply, rx lawsuit ambulance chasing ads. Atty fees should be CAPPED, not the plaintiffs. does Johnny Edwards NEED a 14000 sf house? how is he more WORTHY than the head of AIG? I do not want bars on suits I want real reform if you want to tal about the rate of growth
the average med mal policy for an OB GYN in a mid sized area is MINIMUM 500k MINIMUM, many people drop out of the specialty
one of TOTUS chief complaints is specialist high fees, therefore you must address specialists overhead, that is med mal coverage…
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September 9, 2009 at 10:14 pm. Permalink.