Update: Compare/Contrast 9/12/09 Rally Pic-10-2-10 Rally Pic; Tea Party Documentary; Contract From America; Metro Ridership Data; I Own the World has the pic we need to get a real count;How big was the crowd? Media credibility plunges to new low; Aerial Views added: D.C. Police close roads to buses, people on foot; estimate 1.2 million; ABC can’t count..912 – Party On Patriots!!
Above the post update 10/3/2010: So the left/neoprogressive/labor alliance professional grievance folks had a rally they claim was planned before Glenn Beck’s 8-28-10 Rally. If so, they were responding to our 9/12/09 Tea Party Rally in D.C., so let’s compare/contrast form the same angle.
MSM reports citing the OneSomething 10-2-10 Rally had sponsorts claiming 500k people showed up. The MSM is comparing crowd pics of Glenn’s Rally and 10-2-10 because they largely IGNORED the largest rally to date, which was of course the one we covered here, the first 9/12 rally in 09.
We need a GIF of the POST RALLY conditions of the grounds on the capitol mall following both events.
Updates moved to end of post, it’s time to start the 2010 election countdown!!!
9/19- As of today, 203,000 people have viewed this post. If they all send the info to 2 people, we will have surpassed MSNBC/CNNs usual viewership, LOL. The pseudoelite intellectual media (although really not as smart as they think they are-did you see Wolf Blitzer get his axx handed to him on Jeopardy! lol) cannot handle the truth. 2010 will be EPIC!
Go to the linky to expand x2, I cannot fit it here! see to the left and the right!
Update: 9/17 Charlie Martin reworks the numbers with new data and an update on those Metro Ridership numbers:
(…)we have two new sources of information. First, the ridership statistics from D.C. Metro became available after being delayed, apparently because of a fatal accident on the Metro tracks. The Heritage Foundation, using these figures, computed that Metrorail ridership was about 235,000 greater than the previous weekend. As they say, that in itself is more than three times the (unreliable and badly sourced) number reported in the legacy media.
Second, there is now a high-resolution photo from FreedomWorks, which you can see in the poster here…
On comparisons to the Inuguration via the USAToday chart:
Now, let’s look back at the National Park Service method as published in USA Today. If, in fact, the Mall were only as full as a seated crowd of invited guests, as shown in the article, and if the crowd only went to the diagonal streets Pennsylvania and Maryland, then the Park Service method would give an estimate of about 250,000. But a crowd of this sort is rather more dense than a crowd of seated invited guests because of the need for aisles and access in a seating plan; you can see that in the overhead photos of the inauguration.
And summary of key data points:
- The estimate widely used in the legacy media is not from an authoritative source, and it isn’t even consistent with itself: “full back to 3rd Street” is around 250,000 by Park Sevice methods, not a quarter of that.
- Many estimates, using different assumptions and different methods, arrived at numbers well into the hundreds of thousands.
- This is clearly consistent with the panoramic photo that we can source reliably.
- With everything above, and with several more estimates, I don’t think there is a plausible argument for any total attendance figure much less that 500,000 to 600,000. That is, nearly ten times the reported attendance.
Rep. John Culberson video from the Capitol steps, he notes the dc police said the est was 250k, lol!! look at those wonderful peaceful Americans :) Thank you to Ace commenter phreshone at September 16, 2009 12:00 PM for the vid!
Okay Obots, here is a picture we have needed, courtesy of IOwntheWorld, who will have more to follow!
Slide show courtesy of nhlimited:
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Charlie Martin at PJM does some math on crowd size:
Rumored number 2 million “People meter” count 1.5 million Eight “Pennsylvania Avenues” full of people 800 thousand Grant Memorial area by Park Service method 250 thousand Legacy media reports 70 thousand
Average all of those and we get 900,000 plus (924,000). Throw out the outliers, we get 850,000. And remember that the 1.5 million was a real count; it’s inherently a more believable number. Our estimate should be “pulled” upward by that.
Conclusion: probably well more than 850,000 in the crowd.
Which is a lot of people….
Update: Media Matters neglects to come after us here at MiM directly! Why? Is it because we are 22 and 24 yr DEMOCRATS? Yeah we don’t fit the ‘righty blog’ label they like to use eh? Bring it on MediaMatters. Next will be the race card. My dad is laughing at me in heaven. He knows I voted for Dinkins when we lived in NYC and used to use Media Matters to ‘debunk’ what I thought was right wing spin. Sorry GOP, I was ill informed.
Lefties are bitterly clinging to the idea that the the Mall was not filled up and are putting up pics of the Mall, and whining that our pics here are not of the mall, well NEWSFLASH OBOTS, there was NO PERMIT FOR THE MALL! Thus the people are everywhere else! what morons! Commenter at NiceDeb explains:
JoAnn in VA Says:
September, 14, 2009 at 3:00 am
The photo showing very few people at the march was actually taken of the National Mall. We did not have permission from DC Parks and DC police to use the Mall. We had permission to march on 16th Street, one block north however, and had to start at 10 am instead of the scheduled 1130 beginning time because the DC police told the organizers that we had reached “Critical Mass” and had more people at the starting point than could safely be contained. At 2 pm there were still people marching down 16th Street.
Mr. Obama, can you hear us now?
Play again MediaMatters? This time let’s not play with a bogus pre/post event crowd as is found on lefty blogs, but at the actual time of the event, noting no permit for those 2 squares of grass, but folks eventually spread over them as the crowd kept coming. Tools!
Courtesy of theguyfromZHills
Update: Media credibility plunges to new low, gee wonder why?
…Nearly two-thirds of Americans think the news stories they read, hear and watch are frequently inaccurate, according to a poll released Sunday by thefor the People & the Press. That marks the highest level of skepticism recorded since 1985, when this study of public perceptions of the media was first done…The survey found that 63 percent of the respondents thought the information they get from the media was often off base…
…The most recent poll found just 29 percent believed news reports had the facts straight. (Eight percent said they didn’t know.)…Similarly, only 26 percent of the respondents said the press is careful to avoid bias. The figure was 36 percent in 1985….
…Some 42 percent said they relied on the Internet…A decade ago, only 6 percent of the survey participants said they leaned on the Web for their national and international news…
BWAAAHAAAAA!!!!! Keep ignoring the REALITY MSM and keep driving your customers away…Maroons!!!
Above the fold updates- pics moved up the page per request, scrolling down we can see the crowd is all around the reflecting pool as well….
912 twitpic above by scottwgraves
Update: A Commenter whines that our pic is a webcam and cannot reflect density of the crowd. If he would merely scroll down he would see ample evidence of said density which we think is on par with 1 per 2.5 sf and would have likely exceeded that had the DC police not closed the roads to buses leaving people still walking up when the permit ran out at 400pm.. here are some additional shots via AceHQ which reflect the avg person per sf throughout the crowd:
Headline changed to reflect the All Barack Channel’s wuss out on their count of the rally. If 1 million VOTERS descended on DC to be heard and no MSM reported it would it make a sound? DAMN STRAIGHT BABY, 2010 will be a wipeout for the DEMS at the polls and for any Critter who continues to ignore the people…woohoo!
The really good news is that the BLATANT ONGOING LYING and OBFUSCATION to the public that the MSM is doing on behalf of Team TOTUS will ensure that the MSM is never ever able to elect our POTUS again the way they did in 08. They have ZERO credibility, deservedly so.
Consumer Complaint divisions in companies generally have a mathematical formula in which they extrapolate the actual number of customers who feel a given way based on a small number of actual complaints from the public. Kind of like the way a teeny tiny bused in fixed caucus elects a DEM candidate, lol. Anywho, if you Obots dont think your Team TOTUS is scared spitless by the public backlash we saw yesterday you are as delusional as your dear leader.
The number of Americans who traveled across the country to Just Say No More Spending is incredible and extrapolating for the rest of America, and throwing in the polls (in which TOTUS Biased MSM is now reduced to polling ADULTS instead of likely voters AND oversampling Dems by 5-1 margins), well, yeah it is there in all its glory plain as day. 2010 will be a day of reckoning in the polls for the Critters who blindly follow the MSM Elite Ivy League Intellectual Selected and Approved Leader into oblivion with these massive spending programs.
Don’t do the crime if you cant do the time Critters. No soup for you if you pass any more crxp! One day when this Admin is far far gone some FBI or CIA FOIA request or something similar will give us better numbers of the INCREDIBLE MOVEMENT of regular Americans that took place yesterday. In the meantime let the Critters who believe their own hype lay it on the line….
Original Post: Via MM viewers who sent in pics and the USAToday schematic from the Inauguration on how to judge the size of the crowd. Excellent! (other pics after the break at the bottom of the post)
On the ground report from Matt Welch of ReasonTV here: “* Big crowd. Do not believe any description that says “thousands.” If there weren’t at least a healthy six figures there, I will permanently revoke my head-counting license…”
“…Songs included “Glory Hallelujah” and “My Country ‘Tis of Thee.” The most moving chant might have been when we walked past the Newseum, with its ginormous carving of the First Amendment on the side, and the crowd spontaneously said “Read that wall! Read that wall!”…”
courtesy of bucksogal-HorseofPaulRevere Reports: The march included more than 1,500,000 people by DC police estimates. Two different police confirmed that with me! I hope this conveys even a little the special feeling of that march. God Bless America!!
Courtesy of bowlmeoverva
Courtesy of ccubedblogger
Courtesy of patriotsandheroes-comments from DC attendees!
1: That there were so many people already overflowing Freedom Plaza into the streets that the march just “started itself” 2.5hrs early.
2: When we got to the Capitol, and they were announcing that the didn’t have a permit for the mall, and everyone needed to come in on the lawn. And the crowd chanted back “WE OWN THE MALL!”. Permit or not, it didn’t matter, we filled the roads all the way back to the Washington Monument!
Freedom plaza at 9am was overflowing, and the river of people down Pennsylvania did not stop flowing for 3 hours and filled the front of the capital and down the mall…
Keeping up top scroll down for updates-
Courtesy of MaroonedinMarin
We had an old twitpic of ‘close the gap 97’ rally, now deleted! thanks for the h/t! :) More people attended than watch MSNBC or CNN…
Daily Mail UK Foreign Press reports up to 2 million:
Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as “Obamacare makes me sick” as they protested the president’s health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.
The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the Washington Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.
People were chanting “enough, enough” and “We the People.” Others yelled “You lie, you lie!” and “Pelosi has to go,” referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.
Demonstrators waved U.S. flags and held signs reading “Go Green Recycle Congress” and “I’m Not Your ATM.” Men wore colonial costumes as they listened to speakers who warned of “judgment day” – Election Day 2010…
Above the fold update: Video of the starting point for the march in Freedom Square:
Courtesy of kjcanon
DC Police have closed the roads to buses, people are walking on foot now..“Reports roads closed marchers streaming from capital to washington monument.”
UPDATE FT WORTH! The Ft. Worth 912 Rally has been MOVED UP to 1:45pm Central time so that Glenn Beck can link to it. Blogging the live reports in D.C. from Vodkapundit (Stephen Green) here
Update 3 : MM– 12:34 EST DC Police est 1.2 mill, ABC reports 2 million, GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! Livecam of the D.C. rally here. Wow! WOW!!! LOVE ALL YOU PATRIOTS!!! ROCK ON!! WOOHOO!! Update from MM! FOX NEWS STREAM HERE From HA FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE CABLE OR ARE IN OTHER COUNTRIES YOU CAN WATCH MARCH ON WASHINGTON HERE: http://www.tikilive.com/ #912DC #912 #DC912 #tcot #teaparty #tcot #ocra
MORE COVERAGE AFTER THE BREAK:
Courtesy of FrankStrategies
Update: Ft Worth is having an event also!
Go to TeaPartyPatriots.Org , scroll to the bottom for a state by state listing of local events for everyone who couldnt make it to DC! This is MiM’s sign:
|9/12 RallyPhoenix, ArizonaSaturday, September 12, 20099:00 a.m. till noonState Capital Lawn||Recent Blog Posts
|Bring your flags, signs and posters and your voice. We are making a difference. There are lots of events planned and it will be moving and motivating experience.|
Doobie Brothers courtesy of dootsmasta
BWAAAAHAAAA!! This guy has the right idea from Vodkapundit:
Update for the morons on TV calling everyone raaacist again, there are none so blind as those who will not see, my hubby is ‘swarthy’ lol, and here is a gentleman who would likely disagree that everyone out there is a cracker:
- 912 Twitpic by Brooks Bayne courtesy of MM
Courtesy of ccubedblogger
Update: Documentary to be released around Thanksgiving:
Courtesy of TeaPartyMovie
9/22 Update: A new project from the TeaPartyPatriots: Contract From America:
We would like to introduce you to the Contract From America website, our new initiative, where you can join your fellow Americans in a collaborative grassroots effort to create a document that offers real change in Washington, D.C. and the state capitols. Click here to go to the Contract From America homepage now.
This website provides you with the opportunity to offer your innovative free market, limited government solutions to our nation’s pressing problems and to vote and comment on the ideas of others. We believe that the result of this grassroots-generated marketplace of ideas will be a document that not only represents the will of the American people, but promotes unique ideas that will breathe new life into the economic conservative movement.