Update: FOX Exec Preston Beckman agrees he is an a**hole; TSCC – the machine aspires to be human; Dollhouse – the human is reduced to a machine
Update: 10/16 SciFiWire picked up one of the THR Beckman quotes around the Dollhouse 13 episode pickup I had not seen before.
So word from Joss is that prxck Reilly (who hated TSCC and made nasty comments about we TSCC fans at the announcement it wasnt being picked up) called Joss with the AWFUL rating of S2 premiere and the first thing he told Joss was Dont worry we are airing all 13. Yeah cuz Reilly clearly has a hard on for Dollhouse and hated TSCC.
Could not be more crystal clear. But in case it wasnt Preston admits he is an axxhole and whines about Joss fans giing him shxt. Frak the studio execs, they suck.
(…)”If you cancel it, you’re an asshole; if you renew it and then don’t put it back on, you’re an asshole,” he said. “I’m still paying for ‘Terminator.’ ‘Dollhouse’ has a small rabid fan base that in the world of social media seems bigger than it is. We gave them another season knowing full well we were going to burn in hell if we pulled it.”
Great comment on SciFiWire from a fan:
By ants97 at 1:48 PM ON 10/16/09
you see that excuse would actually hold some credence if they hadn’t cancelled tscc which gained better live numbers, better dvr numbers, better dvd sales and has a much larger and more rabid fan base than the 5 dolhhouse guys over at whedonesque. I mean would the dollhouse fans hire a mobile billboard or cinema screen time to get their show back on the air, no they’ll go and re watch tru calling. No it’s all down to the fact that dollhouse is now dirt cheap to make and fox had no other shows to air on a friday as seen by the 2 comedy shows dollhouse has been paired with. The fans excuse is just a pathetic attempt to garner favour with the sci fi community after it lost them after cancelling firefly and tscc amongst others. When they cancel fringe this season let them see what pathetic excuse them come up with for that one.
I want my TSCC.
Yep. TSCC all the way baby. As the Cameron/John storyline became more romantic, FOX seemed wigged by it, but they clearly have no problem dressing a grown woman as a Barbie and making her a personal robot. Huh.
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TSCC: Thanks Josh Friedman….
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TSCC: Josh Friedman blogs his experiences with the show being cancelled…
By way of CoronaComingAttractions:
When Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles failed to find a home in Fox’s 2009-2010 season the show’s fans cried out in anguish. But even as media reporters and fan organizers wrote their disappointment on blogs and in magazine columns there was one side of this story that didn’t have a voice. When a show is cancelled it’s just bad news for its viewers, but to those that are working on the program it means you’re unemployed and out of work. Who tells the story of those people?
Josh Friedman was the guy at the top of the creative tentpole on The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the writer of the pilot episode and showrunner of the series…
From Josh’s blog, I Find Your Lack of Faith Disturbing:
BOY IN THE BUBBLE
So where was I?
Oh. Right.
I had this little scary robot show and for whatever reason couldn’t convince enough people that it was a) scary enough b) robot enough or c) in English. Add that dim sum combo of factors to a red bean paste of non-monetizable early adopters dvring the show like motherfuckers and now I’m unemployed.
Everyone says having your show cancelled is like a death but I’ve been dead before and at least when you’re dead you don’t get thrown off the Warner Bros. lot for haunting your old parking space. They probably mean it’s like the death of a friend or a family member but that shit only hurts when it’s YOUR friend or family member and even then it’s mitigated by age, lifestyle and whether that person was a Hollywood friend or a real one and whether that family member left you money.
Losing your show is more like a surprise divorce where you get served papers in the morning and your (ex)wife is fucking Human Target by three in the afternoon using the same time slot your child was conceived in and also where she did that one thing that one time on your birthday.
People say the bright side to losing your show is gaining time to spend with your family but I’m pretty sure that waking up next to your ex-showrunner spouse whom you haven’t seen for two and a half years is pretty close to waking up next to that special someone you met the night before at Carlos n’ Charlie’s in Cancun on Spring Break.
WIFE: Oh…It’s you.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Hey baby.
WIFE: You look…different than I remember.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: I’ve gone a little grey.
WIFE: Or a little fat.
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Pretty sure it’s grey.
WIFE: Pretty sure…fat. Was I…drunk?
EX-SHOWRUNNER: Drunk? When?
WIFE: I don’t know. The whole time?You should own your self-inflicted wounds if for no other reason than a) they are yours and b) you inflicted them, you dumb motherfucker, but I do want to say in my own defense that it takes a special kind of someone to work seventy hours a week where it is HALLOWEEN 24FUCKING7 and not pack on a few–
WIFE: Dozen.
A dozen–
Go read the whole thing here! Thanks Josh for the post!
TSCC – Lover Not a Fighter promo – Derek – Notorious B.A.G.
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Bear McCreary’s Goodbye Message to TSCC fans here:
Everyone working on a series must walk the line between doing what they believe and are passionate about and doing something safe that will generate predictable ratings. The creators of this series (and I include myself and everyone else involved in this series in that group) went into unfamiliar dramatic territory here, delivering a dynamic series about multiple characters with complex arcs.
If Josh Friedman and the other writers delivered weekly scripts in which Sarah and John are chased by a different Terminator through various locales and escape narrowly before a big explosion… we might have lasted longer, it’s true. But, that kind of mindless action show would be a series that has an audience, but not one that has fans. And of course, that kind of series would be constantly compared unfavorably to the Terminator feature films week in and week out, since we’d be retreading familiar ground on a much smaller budget.
No, we had to do something more interesting. We instead made the show that we wanted to make, and that the fans wanted to see. And we ultimately fell into an old trap, because mainstream audiences would rather watch “So You Think You Can Dance” then try to keep track of Future Derek, Present Derek, Alternate Future Derek and which one Present Jesse fell in love with. Hell, when I put it that way… I think I understand why. :)..
However, as a fan of the show, I’d much rather take our season and a half of interesting, quality drama than five seasons of shit blowing up or reality shows….
Looking back at those creative highs, I wanted to pick out my top ten moments. This proved impossible, so here are my FIFTEEN FAVORITE MOMENTS OF T:TSCC, both as a fan and as composer (spoilers ahead): (go to the link to Bear’s BSG blog for the rest!)
Josh’s Goodbye Message from savethescc, which sort of ticks me off especially since I heard he pitched S3 with no Frakkin Cameron in it, almost as if he wanted the show to die, sigh:
one last thing from josh friedman.
TSCC Action Items: We Are (Still!) the Resistance…Worldwide Fans Baby!!
From TSCC Resistance fighter cinebo
SCI-FI NETWORK IS INTERESTED IN RENEWING TSCC S3. HELP THE RESISTANCE SWAY THEM
EMAIL——> feedback@scifi.com and tell them how much you love tscc!!!
HELP SPREAD THE WORD! WILL YOU JOIN US! NO FATE!
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Let the Suits know we want Season 3!! NO FATE BABY!!
Go see Terminator Salvation in theaters and save your ticket stubs.
Collect all the ticket stubs you can gather and send them to the WB with a note saying “for TSCC”
Peter Roth – President, Warner Bros. Television Group
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From TSCC Resistance of Germany fighter Dead8Artist
Das deutsche Terminator Forum: http://terminatorsalvation.foren-city.de
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Terminator Salvation: Crusader’s Review (spoilers)
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TSCC is Terminated and the Fans are Pissed
Warning curses abound..By InfiniteDreamsProjex
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