The Housing Bubble Always Pops Thrice…

…or something.

We’ve been Through the Looking Glass for so long now I forget how many times we’ve bumped the fake bottom in 07.  Shedlock has the awesome charts, here we are in Housing starts in ’11-

housing starts CR

Someone should have played the Frozen soundtrack for Bernanke and Yellen and we would’ve been on the plateau end of a nice recovery by now. Let it Fxckin’ Go already. Instead we have miles to go to bottom out housing prices.

Importantly, extra requirements were added so well documented citizens have to jump through hoops, and if you have good credit they don’t want you-

…New government rules have mortgage lenders checking, and double-checking, the income status of borrowers. Now more than ever, lenders want to ensure that home buyers have the ability to repay their loan obligations…

Personally I think all that was needed was removing the high risk low underwriting loans backed by tax dollars. Jamie Dimon wants to lend to everyone with a pulse? Great, but not on my back jack. But instead we got extra regs and the undocumented applications got bumped up and okayed increasing the risks of another national bubble and accompanying collapse even more likely, while hampering the middle class ability to function (as does everything Ive seen DC do since 1999):

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April 7, 2016. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . CITI, citigroup, Economy, FDIC, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Immigration, Labor Department, migrant crisis, Obama Administration, Politics, Popular Culture, refugee, TARP, Taxes, Wall St. 2 comments.

The only likeable person on Obama’s econ team calls it quits: Miser Bros. Summers & Geithner push out Christy Romer

Gee, now we will be forced to hear the abysmal jobs numbers spun without the cheerful manner that was part of Romer’s disposition.

The 'Smartest Folks in the Country!!' Part Deux~Obama Economic Team Vogues (November 08)

Jesse’sCafeAmericain has the round-up on the departure:

Christina Romer is a fine economist, but she frankly does not have the skillset to deal with an accomplished Tidal Basin pond snakes like Larry Summers and his sidekick Tim Geithner.

She is said to have left at her own request. It is nice to see a principled resignation once in a while. Good for her. I hope that is the case. In addition to pushing for more stimulus, I had also heard that Romer was promoting Elizabeth Warren as the head of the new Financial Consumer Protection Agency, a move that is adamantly opposed by Timmy and Larry, the Rubin twins….


Tell me Geithner and Summers aren’t dopplegangers of Heat and Snow Miser…

The Miser Brothers aka Larry Summers and Tim Geithner

I mean Geithner’s profile is pretty easily identifiable..the BEST sign of the early hagiography attempts on Team O was that idiocy proclaiming GEITHNER one of the most beautiful people…

In unrelated news the Comment of the Day found on HotAir:

Excuse me, but is there any way I can get off of “As$clown Express” Airways created by the Grand As$clown himself, BHO?

-yobobbyb on August 5, 2010 at 3:04 PM

August 5, 2010. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Cabinet, Economy, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Labor Department, Obama Administration, Politics, Popular Culture, Taxes, Unemployment Statistics, Wall St. Comments off.

Updates: Bernie Sanders I-VT seeks to put hold on Bens renomination; Black Swan says he will shun public life if Ben reconfirmed; Mark Zandi agrees double dip for housing ahead; Flashback: Bernanke in Denial 2005-2007

Update 2: Breaking on CNBC via Politico Bernie Sanders I-VT trying to put hold on Bens renomination hearing tomorrow. But they seem to have the 60 votes they need. Also today Taleb, of the Black Swan said if Ben is reconfirmed he will leave public life, seriously:

Nassim Taleb, the author of “The Black Swan”, said he would retreat from public life if Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke gains a second term at the helm of the central bank.”What I am seeing and hearing on the news — the reappointment of Bernanke — is too hard for me to bear,” Taleb wrote on his blog on The Huffington Post.

“I am not blaming Bernanke (he doesn’t even know he doesn’t understand how things work or that the tools he uses are not empirical); it is the Senators appointing him who are totally irresponsible — as if we promoted every doctor who committed malpractice,” he wrote.Taleb wrote he will not take part in interviews in the press and will not go to the World Economic Forum in Davos in January.

“I need to withdraw as immediately as possible into the Platonic tranquility of my library, work on my next book, find solace in science and philosophy, and mull the next step,” he wrote, adding that “I will only (briefly) emerge from my hiatus when the publishers force me to do so upon the publication of the paperback edition of The Black Swan.”…

Update: Boy it is exhausting having these fancy pants academics and/or advisers to MAC and Obama come along and agree with MiM months after we take a position, like being Cassandra, it sucketh big time. Now I just heard Marty Feldstein agreeing on Kudlow too, lol. To be fair Feldstein came out on this in October...sure now that it’s COOL to say there is a double dip ALL the kids wanna do it!

Soon Orszag and Krugman will be the cheese, and we all know the cheese stands alone.

Mark Zandi of Moodys (who will be at the big job summit this week, and who is at every Nancy Pelosi jobs bill panel as well), the man who advised MAC and later the Congress on the stimulus, is now forecasting a second leg down in housing, a big one, the one we and others have been yammering on about for months.

Maybe now that one of the chosen few who get listened to (despite often being quite wrong) and whose ideas are often quite unsuccessful (see WSJ on Orszag and Stiglitz’  EPIC FAIL on the risk posed by FAN FRED that somehow gets them promoted and invited to all the summits and now they help design all our economic policy and even our healthcare system!!) is on board with the fact that housing is in imminent danger of collapsing under the continuing deterioration of employment and the failure of the mo mods. Well maybe now they will do the damned HOLC and get it done.

FDR did it, in out boom,. Buy the home loans from the banks,w e already own them in FAN FRED anyway, write down 20% everyone underwater, boom, done. Let homeowners pay it off via their taxes to the government. Give a payroll tax holiday. Stop the uber spending in areas that don’t help the underlying economy. The entire 78 billion directed to housing is still sitting there waiting to be paid out on permanent mods that aren’t happening.

The meltdown of the U.S. housing market is not over yet, and home prices will soon start trekking downward again as a flood of foreclosures looms, a well-known economist said Wednesday.

Home prices, as measured by the Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller U.S. National Home Price Index, will trough in the third quarter of 2010 after declining 38 percent, Zandi said. The index peaked in the second quarter of 2006 and hit a trough in the first quarter of 2009, a drop of about 32 percent. Home prices in many regions have been rising.That is because foreclosure sales fell over the summer and fall as mortgage servicers have tried to put stressed homeowners into the Home Affordable Modification Program and other modification plans, he said. “This lull in foreclosures sales has resulted in the price gains in the past few months,” he said.

“Foreclosure sales will increase, and home prices will resume their decline by early 2010 as mortgage servicers figure out who will not qualify for a modification,” he said.

Zandi said 7.5 million foreclosure sales will have taken place between 2006 and 2011. The majority of these sales, however, have not emerged yet, with 4.8 million foreclosure sales expected between 2009 and 2011….

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December 2, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Economy, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Obama Administration, Politics, TARP, Unemployment Statistics, Wall St. Comments off.

WOW! Must See TV: Congressional JEC panel ripping Geithner apart: Rep Brady (R-TX) first to ask him to resign: MiM starts Obama economic team “shake-up” watch…

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If you look at UE Tim, the US is substantially WORSE off than it was when Obama took office to answer Timmehs whine….In fact someone should tell Tim, taking him at his word that he believes all measures, any measure of economic activity shows things are better since January, the measure of foreclosures and delinquencies has also more than doubled since Obama ‘took charge’:

Update: 12:10pm EST: uh oh. Kudlow says and Steve Liesman confirms, that Geithner is the most fiscally conservative member of Obamas economic advisers.  No wonder we are in a world of hurt! CNBC just ran the Brady Timmeh back n forth so it should come up in a video post shortly. will get it up right away.

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Update: 11:!5am OMG OMG Geithner just threw Seniors unda da bus!! He acknowledges to Brownback that yes the CBO score only works if Congress actually DOES the Medicare cuts and he insists they must and should and will DO THE CUTS. He says the costs have to be reduced, Brownback is saying but why cant we save Medicare? Good grief Geithner is a disaster, you aren’t supposed to tell Seniors they are getting thrown under there Timmeh, Obama will be displeased. Good ad for the GOP though!

WOW!! Excellent!!!! Live feed from CNBC here

I am starting Geithner Fired/Resigns Watch now, there will fer shure be some sort of ‘ Obama economic team shake-up’ to placate the rumblings as they get ready to ask for MORE STIMULUS…They can’t get away with it under Geithner IMO, looks like he is marked as sacrificial lamb, but the Progressives will be no happier with Larry Summers, lol….

By dequalss

Typos abound, getting ready while I do this- TImmeh is red and ranting and blaming Bush and Rep Brady made him acknowledge yes he was head of NY Fed when this collapse happened, and they are cross talking, Brady says the public has lost all confidence in Geithner and he reflects badly on his President, he says at some point Geithner has to take responsibility…ohhh excellent!!

Update: 11:04am EST: Rep. Burgess (R-TX) just said “I don;t think you should quit, you shouldn’t have been hired”. Is that a bus engine I hear idling??? This the Joint Economic Committee and is made up of both Senators and House members, double the fun!! Now Sen Brownback is going off about the health care plan and the Yuan peg…

(FD-MiM is a former AIG employee and shareholder and we have followed Geithner’s handling of the crisis as NY Fed-head closely for two years now, our posts on Geithner, Hank Paulson and AIG are legion. Our previous posts on Geithner and the troubled CITI bailout here and  here and here and here and here and even here ….)

Recall Sens DeMint and Isakson called on Geithner to resign last March. As did several members of the House.

This is in keeping with the report in TheHill this morning:

A Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) member said there’s “growing consensus” among liberals that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner should step down.

Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.) said Wednesday that he and other liberal House members are becoming increasingly tired of Obama administration economic policies that they say are too focused on maintaining the stability of Wall Street firms and largely ignore “Main Street.”“A growing consensus in the caucus [believe that Geithner should be removed],” DeFazio said on MSNBC this evening, adding that some lawmakers are “considering questions regarding him and other economic advisers.”

DeFazio said that lawmakers have not yet drafted a plan to remove Geithner. The lawmaker also took aim at top Obama economic adviser Larry Summers for furthering many of the same policies favored by Geithner.

“We need a new economic team,” said DeFazio…..

Hey man, live by the populist pitchforks, die by the populist pitchforks. Hard to put that class war genie back into the bottle and it was a HUGE mistake to embolden the populist rhetoric flame throwers in the House…

This drum beat is getting louder. Dodd thinks Geithner is a drag on his polling, lol, and Simmons, Dodd’s GOP opponent called for Geithner’s resignation already:

A former House Republican running for the Senate in Connecticut is calling for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to be replaced over his handling of AIG’s bailout.

GOP candidate Rob Simmons reacted to a report by Neil Barofsky, the inspector general of the $700 billion bailout program, known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP).

Barofsky’s report criticized the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which Geithner led during the bailout, for a series of missteps that Barofsky said ended up requiring the government to provide additional support to AIG.

“The report issued yesterday by the inspector general for the TARP program is a deeply troubling account of Secretary Geithner’s failed management of the AIG bailout in which he cost taxpayers $13 billion in unnecessary new debt,” said Simmons, who appears to be the only candidate or office-holder to call for Geithner’s replacement in response to the report.The federal government committed more than $180 billion to AIG, which was crippled by poor investments and trades in credit default swaps, a financial derivative.

Simmons also attacked his opponent, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), in the statement calling on Geithner to be replaced.

“The cozy relationships between the bailed-out financial companies and powerful politicians like Tim Geithner and Chris Dodd are exactly why Americans have lost trust in Washington, D.C., and why we need new leadership with the skills and integrity to clean up their mess and get our economy back on track.”…

More great housing news:

US mortgage delinquency rates and the percentage of loans that entered the foreclosure process jumped in the third quarter, with both reaching record highs, the Mortgage Bankers Association said on Thursday.

The percentage of loans on which foreclosure actions were started rose to 1.42 percent in the third quarter, an all-time high, up from 1.36 percent in the second quarter and 1.07 percent in the third quarter of 2008.

…The delinquency rate for mortgage loans on one-to-four-unit residential properties rose to a seasonally adjusted rate of 9.64 percent of all loans outstanding as of the end of the third quarter of 2009, up 40 basis points from 9.24 percent in the second quarter and up 265 basis points from 6.99 percent one year ago, the MBA said in its National Delinquency Survey. The delinquency rate broke the record set last quarter. The records are based on MBA data dating back to 1972.

The percentage of loans in the foreclosure process at the end of the third quarter was 4.47 percent, an increase of 17 basis points from 4.30 percent the second quarter of 2009 and 150 basis points from 2.97 percent one year ago.

The combined percentage of loans in foreclosure and at least one payment past due was 14.41 percent on a non-seasonally adjusted basis, the highest ever recorded in the MBA delinquency survey….

November 19, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . CITI, citigroup, Economy, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Obama Administration, Politics, Popular Culture, TARP, Taxes, Unemployment Statistics, Wall St. Comments off.

Update: TOTUS throws Larry Summers unda da bus; will reappoint Ben Bernanke head of Fed manyana…

Update 2: Rally fizzled but we stayed positive, DOW closes up 30+…

Update: TOTUS just made the announcement. Ben thanked his colleagues at the FED and thanked TOTUS for backing a STRONG and INDEPENDENT FED.

BWAAAAHAAAA!!!!! Another TOTUS promise broken, Larry Summers must be eating his liver..you KNOW the ONLY reason he wasn’t named Sec of Trez was because head of the FED was promised to him….

…As the nation’s top financial authority, Geithner will inherit oversight of the Bush administration’s $700 billion bailout for Wall Street and a U.S. economy struggling with recession.

He will be flanked by former Treasury chief Lawrence Summers, who will head Obama’s National Economic Council. Analysts say this appointment puts Summers in line to succeed Ben S. Bernanke as chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve in 2010….

WSJSeveral options were on the table, including naming Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser, Lawrence Summers, as Fed chief. Mr. Summers, the gruff, brilliant economist, would likely have run up against resistance on Capitol Hill, too.

Privately, many economists including Fed officials worried that Mr. Summers’ sharp-tongued style could undermine the collegial halls of the Fed…

IMO TOTUS was informed that in light of the new deficit projections to be released tomorrow, the ONLY way China would feel comfortable continuing to purchase our ENDLESS debt issuance was under Bernanke going forward. Ben being seen as a non-political appointment, having gained his position under GWB, and having earned his chops these past 9 months…

Timmeh demonstrates his 'paper beats rock' economic plan to Ben (Reuters Photo / Lucas Jackson)

Oct 2008 Economic Club: Tim and Ben (Reuters Photo / Lucas Jackson) Tim demonstrates Paper Beats Rock economic plan..

And that is because Bernanke WILL IMO take the steps necessary to tighten when recovery is imminent, thus avoiding the HYPERinflationary Carteresque scenario…

Thanks China! Are you having fava beans and a nice Chianti with that liver Larry?

Larry Summers was SHOCKED to learn of Bernanke's appointment, as he had slept through the team meeting...

Larry Summers was SHOCKED to learn of Bernanke's reappointment, as he had slept through the team meeting...

We should have a killer rally tomorrow! I may have to get out my DOW 10,000 hat if Gentle Ben will be in that chair for another term…it was the idea of Summers calling the shots at the Fed when we needed to tighten that really freaked me out….still a double dip IMO but one we can correct with Ben at the helm…

WSJ:

President Barack Obama will announce Tuesday that he is nominating Ben Bernanke for a second four-year term as chairman of the Federal Reserve, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said.

Mr. Emanuel said Mr. Obama will make the announcement from Martha’s Vineyard Tuesday. He said the president credits Mr. Bernanke for “pulling the economy back from the brink of depression.”…

The amazing Snowball (TM) courtesy of BirdLoversOnly rescue organization

Obama Economic Team 'Vogues' last November

Obama Economic Team 'Vogues' last November

August 24, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , . Cabinet, Economy, Finance, Obama Administration, Politics, Wall St. Comments off.

UPDATE 2: DeMint and Rangel support UE extension…Reid confirms: Rep. McDermott (D-WA)to introduce 13 wk Unemployment extension Bill in Fall…

Update 2: Tuesday 8/11: More support for the 13 wk UE extension in the Fall session as Geithner says UE will peak in second half of 2010..

Bloomberg:

The U.S. unemployment rate may not peak until the second half of 2010, even as the broader economy shows signs of improvement, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said.Another extension in unemployment benefits “is something that the administration and Congress are going to look very carefully at as we get closer to the end of this year,” Geithner said in an interview yesterday on ABC’s “This Week” program.

…Summers said the Obama administration will work with Congress to “do what’s necessary to make sure appropriate unemployment benefits are available.”

Congressman Charles Rangel, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, said he supports extending unemployment insurance benefits for another 13 weeks. “There’s no question, they deserve it,” he said on Fox News Sunday. “They are the true victims of this fiscal disaster.”

Senator Jim DeMint, a South Carolina Republican, said he’ll “definitely support” extending unemployment benefits….

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August 7, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , . Finance, Foreclosures, Healthcare, Housing, Labor Department, Obama Administration, Politics, TARP, Unemployment Statistics. 5 comments.

Updated: Regulators won’t back down…Tiny Tim curses out Sheila Bair and Mary Schapiro…

Update from MM The regulators aren’t backing down. Excellent.

…Reuters sheds more light on the turf battle between Geithner/Emanuel and the regulators:

Top U.S. bank regulators will speak out on Tuesday against some key elements of the Obama administration’s plan to reshape financial regulation, saying parts of it were unneeded or could be disruptive.

The officials’ defiance, in prepared congressional testimony obtained by Reuters, came despite a warning given to them on Friday by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.

In private remarks punctuated with expletives, Geithner urged the regulators to end their turf battles and show support for President Barack Obama’s plan, according to a person familiar with the situation on Monday.

But that seemed to have little impact on John Bowman, acting director of the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS), an agency slated for closure under the Obama plan.

“We do not support the administration’s proposal to establish a new agency, the National Bank Supervisor (NBS), by eliminating the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency … and the OTS,” Bowman said in written remarks to be given to the Senate Banking Committee at a hearing…

Since Sheila as head of FDIC, won’t just GIVE away the regulatory power to Treasury, Timmeh is mad mad mad. No doubt he stomped his foot, making him look even more like Rumpelstiltskin were that possible….

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Timmeh and Larry Summers together are like the Hot and Cold Misers..seriously, look at the faces…then add the personalities…

WSJ:

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner blasted top U.S. financial regulators in an expletive-laced critique last Friday as frustration grows over the Obama administration’s faltering plan to overhaul U.S. financial regulation, according to people familiar with the meeting….Mr. Geithner told the regulators Friday that “enough is enough,” said one person familiar with the meeting. Mr. Geithner said regulators had been given a chance to air their concerns, but that it was time to stop, this person said.

Among those gathered in the Treasury conference room were Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Mary Schapiro and Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair.

Friday’s roughly hourlong meeting was described as unusual, not only because of Mr. Geithner’s repeated use of obscenities, but because of the aggressive posture he took with officials from federal agencies generally considered independent of the White House. Mr. Geithner reminded attendees that the administration and Congress set policy, not the regulatory agencies.

Mr. Geithner, without singling out officials, raised concerns about regulators who questioned the wisdom of giving the Federal Reserve more power to oversee the financial system. Ms. Schapiro and Ms. Bair, among others, have argued that more authority should be shared among a council of regulators.

Well, gee since only Ben, Tim, Mary and Sheila were in the room, and the argument is that Ben should get more power which Mary and Sheila are resisting, clearly he can only have been cursing and threatening Mary and Sheila…just like his boss, he has an issue with powerful women who get in his way…..frakker…It’s kind of TOTUS’ karma ain’t it? Everywhere he turns middle aged women are in his way….I’ve got news for them, Sheila is one tough ‘cookie’ she isn’t rolling over for anyone…heh..

Shorter Timmeh/Rumpelstiltskin “If I say we can turn this damned straw into gold then we can!”

Hey I tried not to make elf comparisons and then People mag named him and I kid you not, one of the sexiest men of the year. Well alrighty then…guess they haven’t seen any CW shows last season….

See MM for more coverage…

Johnny Cash courtesy of askeboy

August 4, 2009. Tags: , , , , , , , . Cabinet, Economy, FDIC, Finance, Obama Administration, Politics, Wall St. 4 comments.

Must See TV: The Fed COMPLETELY missing the Housing Bubble….

over and over they said it wouldn’t  happen….as it was happening….to give Ben credit he notes in one clip below (as chief of W’s Council of Economic Advisers, before he was head of the Fed) that he is ‘sure’ the banking regulators are monitoring the underwriting of the loans..of course the unregulated brokers were not and most of the regulated banks had lowered standards beyond belief….Greenspan helped create that bubble and Ben failed to address it….

Exit question: When TOTUS puts Larry Summers in there in 2010, will he do any better?

Courtesy of alanhowitzer

June 16, 2009. Tags: , , , , , . Economy, FDIC, Finance, Foreclosures, Housing, Obama Administration, Politics, TARP, Unemployment Statistics, Wall St. Comments off.

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