Update: 10/16 SciFiWire picked up one of the THR Beckman quotes around the Dollhouse 13 episode pickup I had not seen before.
So word from Joss is that prxck Reilly (who hated TSCC and made nasty comments about we TSCC fans at the announcement it wasnt being picked up) called Joss with the AWFUL rating of S2 premiere and the first thing he told Joss was Dont worry we are airing all 13. Yeah cuz Reilly clearly has a hard on for Dollhouse and hated TSCC.
Could not be more crystal clear. But in case it wasnt Preston admits he is an axxhole and whines about Joss fans giing him shxt. Frak the studio execs, they suck.
(…)”If you cancel it, you’re an asshole; if you renew it and then don’t put it back on, you’re an asshole,” he said. “I’m still paying for ‘Terminator.’ ‘Dollhouse’ has a small rabid fan base that in the world of social media seems bigger than it is. We gave them another season knowing full well we were going to burn in hell if we pulled it.”
Great comment on SciFiWire from a fan:
By ants97 at 1:48 PM ON 10/16/09
you see that excuse would actually hold some credence if they hadn’t cancelled tscc which gained better live numbers, better dvr numbers, better dvd sales and has a much larger and more rabid fan base than the 5 dolhhouse guys over at whedonesque. I mean would the dollhouse fans hire a mobile billboard or cinema screen time to get their show back on the air, no they’ll go and re watch tru calling. No it’s all down to the fact that dollhouse is now dirt cheap to make and fox had no other shows to air on a friday as seen by the 2 comedy shows dollhouse has been paired with. The fans excuse is just a pathetic attempt to garner favour with the sci fi community after it lost them after cancelling firefly and tscc amongst others. When they cancel fringe this season let them see what pathetic excuse them come up with for that one.
I want my TSCC.
Yep. TSCC all the way baby. As the Cameron/John storyline became more romantic, FOX seemed wigged by it, but they clearly have no problem dressing a grown woman as a Barbie and making her a personal robot. Huh.
M’kay. Last night Echo was imprinted as a nursing mom and breastfed the infant. Yeah, Topher gave her a glandular imprint this time and when he tried to wipe it she went off the rails, to quote the show ‘her body was stronger than her mind’. Gee Joss thanks for that prototypical BS about nursing women! As a mom who nursed her baby boy I was horrified and floored by turns. The end thought Joss left us with is, glands control nursing women over their intellect. So much for Joss as writer of strong women HA!
November made an appearance and Miracle Laurie came off more as a robot than she ever did when imprinted as November. Eliza Dushku’s performance was flat and atonal even with the ‘glandular problems’ Joss gave her.
A real disappointment. I flipped over to Medium, and DVRd SG*U. I caught the end of the Dollhouse episode on FOX ON DEMAND this morning and frankly was glad I went with Medium. Sofia Vassilieva, who plays Ariel gave an outstanding (and emotional!) performance in last night’s episode, Who’s That Girl, in which her body was inhabited by a spirit. She managed to EMOTE what the other person was feeling, something Dushku has not done to date…
Even in the final scenes when Dushku’s character is holding a large knife and the baby and the father is trying to tell her she is not the mother, she has a completely ‘flat affect’, no signs of ‘hormones’, more like catatonia. I mean you”re an actress, you got a Hail Mary season 2, you can ‘inhabit’ other lifetimes each week, but you have no emotions? Is it Eliza or is it Joss’ direction? Either way it is flat and boring as hexx.
Amy Acker was not in this episode and word is she is off the show after another episode or two. She is the finest actress on the show so that is a big let down as well.
One more time – they should have kept TSCC, Summer Glau emotes more as a Terminator than Dushku does as a mother having her infant torn from her arms.Even in using an awful stereotype about nursing women Joss either didnt give Eliza anything REAL to work with or she is not a good enough actress to ‘feel’ the things they are imprinting on her, take your pick.
When November believed she loved Tahmoh Penikett she WAS that imprint. She was in the throes of love and desperate to make it work. Their scenes together last season were great. Where is any of that depth in Dushku? So far the most ‘real’ I have seen her is when she inevitably makes the Scooby Doo face of confusion in each episode as she is brought back to the Dollhouse to fix her glitch.
We are looking forward to Joss’ Cabin in the Woods, let’s hope we get Joss back to something worthwhile when Dollhouse gets dumped. Every week he seems to take us down another stereotype about women and he gives us no signs he himself does not believe they are true. I have been trying to see something more than women as interchangeable appliances for every customer’s need in Joss’ writing but it just is not there. We will post the ratings when they are up.
Update 1: Dollhouse ratings fall off a cliff to previously uncharted depths for FOX last night. once more with feeling: you frakked up Reilly! FOX should’ve brought TSCC back….
“Dollhouse” (2.1 million viewers, 0.8 preliminary adults 18-49 rating) punched through it’s previous rock bottom Friday night to discover a Fox ratings netherworld. The show dropped 20% from last week’s premiere, which was already an all-time-low for the show. I’m betting the debut of Syfy’s “Stargate: Universe” zapped some viewers (cable ratings aren’t available yet), but even so — this is too low for a Fox show.
CBS won the night again even with ‘soft ratings’ hey it’s a Friday!
Meanwhile CBS didn’t have a great night either, with its trio of crime dramas falling from their somewhat-soft premieres. “Ghost Whisperer” (7.6 million, 1.7), “Medium” (7.7 million, 1.8) and “Numbers” (7.7 million, 1.6). CBS nonetheless won the night.
CW lost some views:
Week 2 of “Smallville” (2.4 million, 0.9) dropped 18%. (Update: Smallville beat Brothers on the network!)
Update 2: MTV Movie blog pans last night’s episode also:
(…)Man, this might have been one of the most needless episodes of “Dollhouse” to date. It did very, very little to propel the forward momentum of the series seen in last year’s finales and hinted at in this year’s premiere. Sure, we get the reminder at the end that Echo is growing cognizant of her situation, but we have to wait until the final minutes for this reveal. It felt like the bad old days of the first season, where those opening episodes struggled to find their footing. This was an extraordinary step back, in my opinion…
…”Instinct” was a complete waste of time given the progress the show has made since last year’s final episodes. I truly hope this was a one-time fluke in quality, because when “Dollhouse” is this stale, I have a hard time feeling bad about its ratings decline and inevitable cancellation….
(…) Today, according to blogger Nikke Finke of Deadline Hollywood, the Halcyon Holding Group, after recently filing for Chapter 11 protection, has hired FTI Capital Advisors “to evaluate strategic alternatives for the company.”
In other words: Selling off Skynet!
Halcyon, which made the most recent “Terminator Salvation” film and also “owns the first-look rights to the works of science fiction writer Philip K. Dick,” has been fighting with a hedge fund that gave it money to buy the famous series that takes a very bleak view of the future.
Almost as bleak as that of Halcyon if they don’t come up with a plan to bring me my annual dose of cybernetic organisms, which is–of course!–living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.
Love Lena. Love Sean Bean, Captain Sharpe baby…love George RR Martin..gonna have to keep the HBO after True Blood goes on hiatus I guess, they got me…All Hail Robb baby..fan trailers follow
Lena Headey, star of the Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series, has nabbed the last major part in HBO’s Game of Thrones pilot, according to Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune. Headey will portray Cersei Lannister, a woman of royal blood who is every bit as smart, cunning and devious as the powerful men around her… (Go Read the Whole Thing)
MiM was alreadyready to shell out a few clams for the YARM to support Thomas Dekker, (his YouTube to the TSCC fans deserves the loyalty :0)) but it is great to hear Robert Englund is also a Dekker and TSCC fan, and the thoughts of the original cast on the YARM..and PS doesn’t Heather look great?
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